Flights to Israel and Holocaust sites is common in high school, among Jewish singles groups, Birthright Israel recent visitors, and Christian Israel tours:
After all, those who do not remember the past — especially in Jewish religion and Jewish history — are condemned to repeat it:
Teachers are dropping controversial subjects such as the Holocaust and the Crusades from history lessons because they do not want to cause offence to children from certain races or religions, a report claims.
The Crusades is indeed a complex and volatile subject. But the Holocaust? C’mon. That was one of the few times in history where the issue was black-and-white.
The only people who would be offended at the teaching of the Holocaust are those who are one or both of the following: an anti-Semite or a Holocaust denier. Frankly, I don’t give a damn if a person in one of those two groups is offended. And neither should anyone else.
One of the primary purposes of history is to learn from our mistakes so humanity does not repeat them. That is why it is crucial to teach about the Holocaust, the Armenian genocide, Rwanda, Darfur, slavery, and a host of other travesties.
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The only thing i know is that as long as racism is existent, monstrosities like this are doomed to happen again. that’s just the way it is, and if people stop teaching them, it makes the chances even higher. Katherine(Quote)
Finally people with some common sense.
It’s said to think that the Holocaust could happen all over again. What lovri said was completly true! As said as it is it did happen.
Also does anybody else see the resemblence between Bush and Hitler??? Millie(Quote)
Aproximately 6 million Jews were killed and 5 million others (non-Jews) gassay(Quote)
Im 13 from Nevada and right now im writing a paper for my uncles history class about the laws agianst the jews and the events leading up to it and doing all the research ive done so far it saddens me to see how some people still look up to Hitler and how they hate jews because he did i think its very wrong for them to i dont know anyone that is jewish because my aunt doesnt like them Deltaco DT(Quote)
Ok well for one thing anyone who believes that what Hitler did was ok is crazy!!! He MURDERED over 40,000,000 Jews to rid the Earth of the “unclean”. He should’ve killed himself. Talk about UNCLEAN! I agree by the way with Jenna… the United States began with all kinds of different people. We would not have survived in the beginning when Columbus if it had not been for the Indians. To say that our nation would be so much better without any other race other than whites is bogus…its what makes us who we are. Madeline(Quote)
I think that all the people who write in should use proper grammar. Almost every one of the comments I’ve read is either misspelled or grammatically incorrect. I guess that says alot about white superiority.
I understand that many people are writing about something emotional, but God, it makes it hard to read when a knucklehead tries to say something. Andrew Zielsdorf(Quote)
all of them is ridicolous.it is lying.it is no fact.nazi is good.jewish is the same of donckey.muslim is good human.death to israil. Mohtasham Salem(Quote)
I completely agree with you 100%. It is ridiculous that we are not taught these things in school. I am a 9th grade student in Toronto and i am tired of learning about the same canadien history year after year, after year. Those taboo topics may be a little risque but everyone should know what happened and why. Im writing a paper on the concentration camps for english class (not history) because we are reading Anne Frank and I dont no much because we havent been taught any of it in history class. It is interesting to hear this from someone else because i have thought so for a long time. CC Toronto(Quote)
yea i agree 1000000% only cause thisworld is going crazy and this geration needs to learn and see what happend in our history.…so the schools need to hop on teaching us betta and more on our history.….….soooo.…..get wit it.….…. shawnique mcmillian(Quote)
what hitler did was wrong. the holocaust must be taught so we don’t make the same mistakes. we can learn from the past that what i believe. even if u are muslim or any other nationality or believe in a different religion. This event affected the whole world all together amy(Quote)
Okay, let’s pressume that holocaust has ever happened. The Jews were suffered from it. But how come the Jews that has ever suffered much pain in the past can do the same thing to other nations when they gets strong?
U see, the Jews now has a country, the Israel. It’s now one of the strongest countries in the Middle East. The only country in the region has a nuclear reactor. U know how they got the country? In 1948, they expelled the Palestinians from their land, blew their houses and kill the men. They argued: Hey, this is my land, The Promised Land. Get out of here!! I don’t know where you will go. Just go.
I have seen many brutal actions done by the Israelis to the Palestinians from the internet. U don’t believe me? Open the YouTube site! I have seen a group of Israelis soldiers held a man arm and hit a rock on it, over and over. I have seen an Israeli soldier shot a Palestinian from very close distance, while the victim was handcuffed and eye-blinded with a scarf. I have seen the Israelis build a wall stronger than The Berlin Wall inside the Palestinian territory. I have seen an Israeli attack helicopter shot to a crowd made many people died and wounded. Have you ever heard that an Israel warship shot to a beach full of Palestinians? Well, I have!
But why when the Palestinians fought back, the whole world say that they’re terrorists. When they hit a Merkava tank with a rock, the tank shot its machine guns. When the Israeli soldiers enter the Palestinian territory during “an operation”, they destroy everything they suspect, including civilian houses, schools, even hospitals.
C’mon, people! The Israelis has taken their land. They got rid of the Palestinians. They torture the Palestinians every single day.
I think people must be objective to see the Palestinians and the Israelis. My advice to Israel is: don’t let other nations think that you are so much alike with the Germany and Hitler during the WW II. You have suffered the pain, why do you make other people feels the same pain? Hans(Quote)
The fact is that some pictures on the Internet about the Holocaust fabricated some of the other crimes of the Holocaust is not
See also played by the Jews now they do not disagree about Hitler in anything but are harsher than you you see what you are doing to children and the elderly, women and men in Palestine
What happened to the Jews is a measure of the Lord sniper(Quote)
Do you all have any abstraction of Holocaust and Auschwitz?! No!! You are just stupid Americans whose don’t really know where does Poland reside!!!
Did it touched your country?! Did it touched your families?! NO!!! So, please, don;t talk about things that you have no idea!!!!!!! Ev(Quote)
this website is shit and can suck my dick. everyone else should agree because im bored anyone wanna go me ill take ya on. FAGGOT Damo(Quote)
and that hans dude is gay coz hes a jew Damo(Quote)
Up until a few days ago, i had never bothered myself with the happenings of the holocaust (blame it on my ignorance) but only vaguely knew that Hitler was infact responsible for the killings of many jews. The numbers and other ethnic and social groups was highly underestimated.
I have recently come across “The diary of a young girl” by Anne Frank and took it upon myself to educate myself of the actual incidents that occured. I am horrified and disgusted that other human beings could have inflicted that much pain on others and am especially horrified of the “experiments” they carried out on children and infants. Now, I realise that I have no inkling of what is going on up there between the Israeli and the Palestinians but I do know that God is watching our actions and is probably mortified of our actions. What exactly are these people fighting for or about?
But coming from a country of the history that we’ve overcome, South Africa, I do somewhat understand the resentment and anger manifesting in these countries. For one, I am black and to top it all, I am female. I have come a long way from the times when my grandma was tortured to death for being those things. I do understand that racism still exists in South Africa but I will not be defined and reduced to live in fear of being seen as a “dirty” race because of my colour and gender.
I feel, Germans are in general are a very sick nation and so only empathise with those that were born into it without those views. Afrikaaner came from there and so you understand my theories!!
Peace and LOVE!! Unathi(Quote)
I think its really immature and foolish for some people to get offended ov’r someone talkin about something so sad and devistating such as the Holocaust. i believe that they should embrace others thoughts on the holocasut and how the jews were treated and hoew many lives were tooken and just simply comment on what others think. i know this girl that used to be upset and crying in history class when our teacher would talk about the Holocaust and she would have to be excused from class and she wouldn’t be upset @ the fact that we were talkin about, she was in actually cuz that was one of my best friends, she knew she has a great great great(possibly another great) uncle that did and suffered during that and it just hurt her kow. We still talk now and like she wasn’tas upset as last time. but still i do understand where come from about being upset about the holocaust cuz I had and aunt that died in the 9–11 and it doesn’t hurt that much as it used to but it still hurts regardless. Jasmine(Quote)
Okay, all you guys are getting agressive about this and missing the main focal point.
But on a quick side note, its not ashlie’s fault she’s stupid, the wire in her head that connects her brain to her mouth..well, isn’t connected. And the person that said Hitler was making a ‘better place for blondes’..okay, what the f*** is that supposed to mean? To my knowledge (and I’ve had enough unintelligent conversations to know) blondes are about as dumb as they come. So if Hitler wanted a world of blondes…we’d be screwed.
Anywho, back onto subject. The reason this picture was posted wasn’t to get everyone all riled up about the holocaust. Its to REMEMBER. All the kids nowadays don’t know crap about the holocaust or the JFK assasination, or MLKjr assasination. All the kids nowadays care about is their shoes and their purses and what brand their clothes are and make up, and all that other crap. The kids now are selfish, self-centered, spoiled and inconsiderate and care nothing for the lives of other people, races, you name it, and what they went through.
And for the record, I’m not racist at all but I need to say this cuz its starting to get on my nerves. All you black people out there that are starting in with your ‘you owe me, your ancestors did this and that to my ancestors so you owe me’ crap needs to stop! Listen, I don’t owe you nothing, my grandpap do owe you nothing, my grandpap’s grandpap don’t owe you nothing. I’m from the north, we freed your asses. Also, you guys need to stop using the ‘N’ word cuz I don’t think your ‘ancestors’ would appreciate it. They all fought hard to get rid of that name, to them it was condescending and you guys are using it like it means nothing. Gina(Quote)
Okay, EV, listen up. The holocaust might not have been in OUR country, but it touched us none the less because some of the jewish that survived are our relatives and some are still alive and kicking, thank you very much! So your the one who need to shut up because you have no idea what your talking about! Rachel(Quote)
Rachel why should I shut up?! Because I think ppl here have no idea what Holocaus was???? Because I can’t agree when they say it was right what Hitler did????
So don’t piss me off!!!!!!! Ev(Quote)
Oh, and if you have ANY idea of Holocaust you won’t have written so many bullshits!!!! Ev(Quote)
The one thing that annoys me about this discussion is some people’s arrogance with regard to foreign opinion. I am a South African. I grew up in Germany and in Israel over a period of 2 and 3 years respectively. I now teach in a typical East London school with a majority Muslim intake.
It is true that sensitive issues like the Holocaust needs to be approached very carefully, but it has to be taught, since it is true that we should learn from our past.
It is also true that WWII touched many nations citizens lives, not only the “Jews”. Others were persecuted as well! So when I read a statement like, “You Americans, and it didn’t affect you etc etc.” I just plain get angry! A lot of nations lost the lives of soldiers in the war, fighting which led to the freedom of many still imprisoned in concentration camps. So have a little respect!
Having lived in Israel, I’ve come to see that the issue with regards to Palestine is very difficult! I agree that they should have a homeland, just as I agree with the existence of Israel. A compromise will need to be reached for both to co-exist, or the fighting will never cease! FACT!
One thing I want to make clear is that, as a Christian, I cannot agree with fighting and violence. I don’t accept any form of terrorism, or of an organization which vows to end the existence of Israel. Suicide bombings will always show me the BAD side of the Muslim religion. A lot of Muslims say it is not part of their religion but abuse of it. Yet, I’ve never seen a clear and loud resistance by peaceloving Muslims towards these acts, rather a SILENT acceptance and will for it!!! Until I see this happen, I will not get actively involved in helping the Palestinian cause! It’s time to speak up and condemn these kind of acts! Jay(Quote)
you know what… I’m sick with your posts. I’m going to delete this web and don’t read your bullshits.
ŻEGNAM. Ev(Quote)
I am a 11th grade student in Georgia. We have been taught this subject in classes several times. I agree that children and even adults should be taught about the worlds history. i think that the people that are offended by any subject of history are completely selfish. If these milestones had not happened they would still be suffering. For those exact happenings, they are now treated equally. i think people need to stop being foolish and relize the history. Amberley(Quote)
ok first of all Unathi yu got no rite sayin Germans are in general are a very sick nation and so only empathise with those that were born into it without those views. dat iz not rite bkuz 2 tell yu da truth ma dad iz black n ma mom iz german and i understand yu r black 2 so yu nyd 2 shut da fuk up wit yo stupitness not all germanz are the same wen it comez 2 hitlers way and the hole situation wit da holacaust.…! stop critazising germans and blacks and can i juz sai the ppl who look up 2 hitler and dislies whites or blacks or jews CAN ALL GO @ HELL KUZ YU ARE ALL SICK!!!! keka(Quote)
Well, I am not sure if the so called Holocaust actually happened; but I do arguably believe that Jews deserve worse that Holocaust and I would like to see more Holocausts in the near future. The Cursed People Jews simply do not deserve to live decently. Blain Hacker(Quote)
There’s a heaven and hell and to what was done to them by whomever will not see the light of god in the end.. Jessica Bailey(Quote)
The country with the greatest number of killings and rapes is the Congo. But you won’t you read about it in textbooks and when the media talks about it, they blame it on tribalism. The United States, Israel, and Europe benefit from the diamonds and other natural resources , as well as from the sale of weapons and use of slave labor; this why there is not too many people talking about the genocide of the Congo. randalljones(Quote)
israel is the first country to install the Kimberley Process against the business of blood diamons, randall. kafir(Quote)
you have some really stupid ass people commenting your blog.
how did you filthy white supremacists, who probably live in your mothers’ basements, even find this page?
the various anti-semites in the world can be found in the comments for this entry; from your typical white nationalist to the radical islamist to the bleeding heart free-palestine leftist to the bible thumping fundamentalist. a very motley crew. amira(Quote)
kafir,
With the all the violence still going on in the Congo, we can see how well the Kimberly Process is working.
Its not just Diamonds, there is also Coltan that is used in cellphones and other electronics that is being exploited by Westerners. As I have mentioned before, there is also the sale of weapons, that helps to perpetuate the violence. randalljones(Quote)
This is absoloutley ridiculous! Some people are acting like this wasnt even a big deal? This is a crucial period of time where millions of people were brutally slaughtered because one man decided he wanted only a certain type of person to be able to live on this world. Hitler destroyed millions of familys and wrecklessly murdered people with friends, families, husbands, and wives. Does it seem fair to be exteminated from the Earth just because you look or like or act differently from everyone around you? I think trhat by itself is and absurd requirement to make of every person living right now. It is so upseting to see the millions of children alone murdered or shoved into gas chambers to suffocate. Although some people want to believe it wasnt as brutal and serious as it sounds, but in all honestly it truthfully was! This incident NEEDS to have a bigger impact oin people one way or another because it was an awful and horrid time period we all went through. Ashbash(Quote)
umm in school and i learned nothing because i didn’t read it. i need to do a project on the crusades and this is just, as those snotty brittish people would say, ridiculous. well tata, pip pip, cheerio! and good-bye to all you snotty tea sipping brits!
TIMMY!!! gsdugfkhgf(Quote)
yaaa…umm i still didnt learn anything.. STUPID BRITS! gsdugfkhgf(Quote)
Shocking! The original article was posted almost two years ago and the conversation had not moved on at all. It has also proved to be completely unfounded — the Holocaust has always, and will continue to be taught in British schools. maxim(Quote)
“The more we know about the past the better prepared we are for the future…” I think this quote fully explains why we should learn about the Holocaust. Another reason is to honor those six million innocent people who were mercilessly slaughtered. ali h(Quote)
Being that I am Jewish, I have noticed that only once has the school I attend in Minnesota mention the Holocaust. My English teacher in grade had a sort of fascination with it…
What hurt me was that we had to do a project on it, and a boy in my class wrote an entire essay on how it all never happened. I cried during class, it was terrible.
I think people should definitely be more aware of the non-Jews that were killed as well. They’re mentioned, but people like gays, mentally retarded, gypsies, etc… are all mostly forgotten. Elisheva(Quote)
You know what i wonder?
Why do some people think it was only the Jews???????????
i mean seriously there was jehovah’s witnesses, homosexuals, black people, and a LOT of other religions! Michelle(Quote)
man thiz is bad for the people!!!peace
silince and i love ma boo jessica enrique manrufo(Quote)
First blog I have ever responded to. Totally worth it. The debate sickens me, man’s inhumanity to man sickens me. Kelli B(Quote)
UMFRAGE II « istaris peeps // Sep 15, 2009 at 09:20
Ashlie, Did you realize that Hitler also killed whites to? You are one of the dumbest people i have ever seen to think that are country would be much cleaner if it was only whites! other ethnicities helped develop our country just as much as any white person… Martin Luther King?! ever heard of him before? How would the world be if we didn’t have other people around us? Racist Freak! wanna know something? you just got ditched by a SOPHMORE in high school how does that feel?????
love ariel ariel kapper(Quote)
Thanks to everyone who has addressed the anti-Semitism in this thread. I don’t have time to do it myself! Sam Scott(Quote)
i am moslem at firest i was thinking that the germans was good to do that but when i saw the photos and read about the holocoast i think that who made that is not human they are devils and the god will not forgive them ahmed elsaid(Quote)
I was just browsing some entries on here, and came across this post. I’m not sure what is more disappointing: that being PC is more important than teaching history, or the comments here.
One issue with teaching history, especially that which is related to tragedies and human cruelty, is that there is so much of it in recorded history that I don’t think that kids can really get a sense of the tragedy in a high school or grade school history lesson. Requiring a research assignment may help, but even so, there is just too much material to cover in a single subject to be able to make an impact on every child. Hopefully historical blurbs could spark an interest in young minds.
Jeff remembers, I’m sure, when we played the Holocaust Suite in symphonic band in high school. Before that experience, I knew about the Holocaust, but the gravity hadn’t really sunk in yet. Our band director spent time educating us about the Holocaust and even brought in a survivor to speak with us. I learned more about the Holocaust and the tragedy that it was in band class than in any history class I’ve taken, even in college. From that point, I have had great compassion for the people who endured that event and disgust for racism/any other kind of discrimination.
One general historical subject that I thought was lacking in my education was African history. I remember the Rwandan genocide as it was happening, but none of my teachers really discussed it much. I learned more about it, mainly, from my dad, who used to travel to Africa quite a bit back then, and had many friends living there.
So, maybe it takes good teachers to educate students and to teach them cognitive skills that allow students self educate throughout their lives. I think that teachers who choose to keep children ignorant of any subject are underestimating the potential for understanding of children and are doing a disservice to the kids and to the educational system. It’s a shame. Alex(Quote)
to each their own opinion, all of you who have any common sense know that Hitler killed tons of people not just jews but for the most part yes. Maybe all of the people who think Hitler did right to this country should come back to high school with me, because obviously i know and understand more than your racist fucks will ever know. I’d be glad to educate quiet a few of you people. Ariel(Quote)