Comments on: Leaders of Nations and the True Clash of Civilizations http://www.samueljscott.com/2007/04/28/the-true-clash-of-civilizations/ Understanding politics from the left, right, and center Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:07:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Sam Scott http://www.samueljscott.com/2007/04/28/the-true-clash-of-civilizations/comment-page-1/#comment-381 Sam Scott Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:54:35 +0000 http://samueljscott.com/2007/04/28/the-true-clash-of-civilizations/#comment-381 Peter, I'm not saying that everyone should dump religion. I'm saying (among other points) that religion and irrationality should not be the primary influences on matters of public policy. Peter, I’m not saying that everyone should dump religion. I’m saying (among other points) that religion and irrationality should not be the primary influences on matters of public policy.

]]> By: Peter Bruce http://www.samueljscott.com/2007/04/28/the-true-clash-of-civilizations/comment-page-1/#comment-380 Peter Bruce Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:50:11 +0000 http://samueljscott.com/2007/04/28/the-true-clash-of-civilizations/#comment-380 The way this article is presented highlights the downside of belief and the upside of the enlightenment. The Enlightenment was one of the starting points for the Industrial Age, which we can equate with modernism. The conflicts of the Twentieth Century where primarily secular in nature. The century's greatest's tyrants, Hitler and Stalin, where not motivated by a religious agenda. The communists have gone farthest in secularising the state - and look at the consequences. One observer noted that the 20th Century was a failed secular experiment. To progress religion and science must agree. We must learn to live in the intersection of these two great world views. Religion without science leads to superstition and science without religion leads to unbridled materialism. The way this article is presented highlights the downside of belief and the upside of the enlightenment. The Enlightenment was one of the starting points for the Industrial Age, which we can equate with modernism. The conflicts of the Twentieth Century where primarily secular in nature. The century’s greatest’s tyrants, Hitler and Stalin, where not motivated by a religious agenda. The communists have gone farthest in secularising the state — and look at the consequences. One observer noted that the 20th Century was a failed secular experiment.

To progress religion and science must agree. We must learn to live in the intersection of these two great world views. Religion without science leads to superstition and science without religion leads to unbridled materialism.

]]> By: Samuel J. Scott http://www.samueljscott.com/2007/04/28/the-true-clash-of-civilizations/comment-page-1/#comment-377 Samuel J. Scott Fri, 04 May 2007 22:14:33 +0000 http://samueljscott.com/2007/04/28/the-true-clash-of-civilizations/#comment-377 rcronk, Good point -- the humble and the prideful are very applicable terms. True Believers are arrogant enough to "know" that they are correct whereas Skeptics are humble enough to know how little we know. rcronk,

Good point — the humble and the prideful are very applicable terms. True Believers are arrogant enough to “know” that they are correct whereas Skeptics are humble enough to know how little we know.

]]> By: rcronk http://www.samueljscott.com/2007/04/28/the-true-clash-of-civilizations/comment-page-1/#comment-376 rcronk Fri, 04 May 2007 20:40:50 +0000 http://samueljscott.com/2007/04/28/the-true-clash-of-civilizations/#comment-376 Good article - I really like how objective and principle-based it is. Such objectivity is a rare thing to find. It's difficult to come up with a solution to this problem. I wonder if another set of titles would apply to the true believer and the skeptic: the humble and the prideful? Good article — I really like how objective and principle-based it is. Such objectivity is a rare thing to find. It’s difficult to come up with a solution to this problem. I wonder if another set of titles would apply to the true believer and the skeptic: the humble and the prideful?

]]> By: madmouser http://www.samueljscott.com/2007/04/28/the-true-clash-of-civilizations/comment-page-1/#comment-375 madmouser Sat, 28 Apr 2007 22:58:14 +0000 http://samueljscott.com/2007/04/28/the-true-clash-of-civilizations/#comment-375 This is a most amazing article and I do believe in your last paragraph, but I do not think it will happen. I think power and greed has so corrupted all groups, that they will never agree to agree. It may take some cataclysmic event of Mother Nature to bring us all together again, but alas, I think its name is Armageddon and it will be too late. This is a most amazing article and I do believe in your last paragraph, but I do not think it will happen. I think power and greed has so corrupted all groups, that they will never agree to agree. It may take some cataclysmic event of Mother Nature to bring us all together again, but alas, I think its name is Armageddon and it will be too late.

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