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Female Unhappiness

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Ross Douthat comments on a recent study that many women will denounce angrily while secretly agreeing with it:

...all the achievements of the feminist era may have delivered women to greater unhappiness. In the 1960s, when Betty Friedan diagnosed her fellow wives and daughters as the victims of “the problem with no name,” American women reported themselves happier, on average, than did men. Today, that gender gap has reversed. Male happiness has inched up, and female happiness has dropped. In postfeminist America, men are happier than women.

The longer that I lived in the Western world, the more I noticed that an increasing number of twenty-something and thirty-something women -- at least on the urban, East Coast -- who were angry and bitter. I had a long day at work, so I'll refer to several posts that I have written on this topic.

Women go against their natural impulses by intentionally delaying marriage and motherhood into their thirties and forties. They know -- but will not admit -- that feminism sold them a false bill of goods. After they finally won their entry into the workforce, they realized that no one really likes to sit at a cubicle all day in a high-pressure environment that makes women more aggressive, manly, and less attractive to the opposite sex. They understand that the mass entry of women into the job market lowered real salaries -- an increase in the supply of labor with the same level of demand -- and turned children into latch-key kids. More women are buying small dogs and carrying for fake babies since they waited too long to have children and men can still date twenty-something girls when they are in their thirties or forties. Women are also catching on to the fact that many men are increasingly suspicious of marriage in a world of no-fault divorce proceedings that routinely strips children from fathers and gives their money to their ex-wives.

As I wrote in a lengthy essay, modern society has essentially devolved as a result of the unintended consequences of feminism in the dating scene. As women became more successful, they became more picky. (In general, women want to date "up.") They decided to focus on their careers and educations while remaining sure that they could eventually marry quickly after a given age. Well, the unpleasant reality is that men become more attractive with age while women do not. As game theory dictates, the women who win at the marriage auction are those who find a good guy and marry early. Those who wait will see only the leftovers and exclaim: "There are no good men left!"

Why are modern, single, feminist women so unhappy? Let's break it down by decade:

Twenties -- Women have an intense, biological desire to settle down, get married, and have children while they are in their prime. But society tells them to get master's degrees and have fulfilling careers while getting drunk every night, having casual sex with immature barbarians, and destroying their souls. So they are conflicted on physical, mental, and spiritual levels.

Thirties -- Women have advanced degrees, educations, and resumes, but they are rapidly losing their looks. At the same time, men in their thirties -- whose market value in the dating world has only increased as a result of wealth and looks -- can routinely have casual sex with the women who are now in their twenties. The thirty-something women find it harder to meet someone who fulfills their unreasonable expectations.

Forties -- Get a small dog or a fake baby, a tub of ice cream, and rent "Thelma & Louise."

Now, I expect that some readers will think that I am being misogynistic. Far from it. I am reaching logical conclusions from what I observed in the United States in the context of evolutionary psychology and economics. When society messes with nature, bad things result.

In the study cited by Douthat, men are reportedly happier then they were decades ago. It is easy to understand why. In today's post-feminist world, men have beer, video games, sports, sex with no strings attached, and free, Internet pornography. Men are simple creatures -- what more could they possibly think that they need?

I write this post with extreme sadness at the state of Western society. I want men and women to marry, have children, and be truly happy. (I personally consider it a holy, spiritual action.) But feminism, albeit unintentionally, harmed the relations between the genders that had worked for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. I am not sure it will ever be repaired.

My earlier essay: The Battle of the Sexes

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  • Karen

    You make one grave mis­take in your analy­sis, you assume that women /want/ to marry and have chil­dren. Not all do. Also, learn how to spell misog­y­nis­tic before using it.  

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  • Sophia Marsden

    I am not a fan of fem­i­nism by any means. But I have absolutely no desire to be mar­ried right now.

    I don’t much have a desire to be doing what I am doing either. But some­how I wouldn’t mind being an old spin­ster when I die. Pos­si­bly in pos­ses­sion of three cats, oooh and liv­ing in a wind­mill.  

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  • Kate

    Sam, my dear, dear dar­ling. I am glad that you have a happy fem­i­nist his­to­rian to refute your obser­va­tions. Hav­ing been your friend for years you know that I have gone through up and downs with the oppo­site sex can be as bit­ter, angry and pleas­antly or unpleas­antly sar­donic as many of the “east coast women” that you describe. But I do not let my dis­ap­point­ment or anger rule my life. It is because of the fem­i­nist move­ment that I have the tools to build a happy and inde­pen­dent life, and you should think twice (or per­haps 200 times) before you eval­u­ate its impact on females as a neg­a­tive one that is some­how in need of remeditation.

    What I think is mas­sively impor­tant to under­stand about the fem­i­nist move­ment is that its pri­mary goal was to make sure that women had oppor­tu­nies to expand their iden­ti­ties beyond the tra­di­tional bound­aries of bio­log­i­cal neces­sity. That is: given the rev­o­lu­tions of the twen­ti­eth cen­tury, female humans are not just defined by their capac­ity to repro­duce or their func­tion as sta­tus sym­bols in social con­texts or bartered com­modi­ties in eco­nomic ones. Cer­tainly such a mas­sive change, enabled by grow­ing tech­nolo­gies as much as shifts in men­tal­i­ties was bound to cause infra­struc­tural upheaval within the “advanced” soci­eties that expe­ri­enced it, upheaval which some might term or observe as per­sonal “unhappiness”.

    As a his­to­rian, how­ever, i tend to take the long view and as a fem­nist I per­son­ally resent your narrow-minded and short-sighted stereo­types as to how the tra­jec­tory of a lib­er­ated, marriage-resisting woman is sup­posed to play out by decade.

    As a nearly 30 year old woman who enjoys repro­duc­tive rights, sex­ual free­dom, and edu­ca­tional oppor­tu­nites, I have been able to shape my iden­tity in a way that is pleas­ing to me and not nec­es­sar­ily to oth­ers. Thus, I do not antic­i­pate spend­ing my thir­ties bitch­ing about how I am an incom­plete human being because of my mar­i­tal sta­tus or my desire for chil­dren. I also can­not think of any­thing that I will be far­ther from doing in my 40’s than rot­ting on my couch– by then my hard work will have led me on a path to fufill­ment and success.

    I guess what I want you to know from some­one who knows you is that the tra­di­tional pic­ture of mar­ried life with chil­dren that you present is not one that makes every­one happy-many peo­ple, of course, but not every­one. I do not like it when peo­ple assume what they know what my “nat­ural impulses” are, Sam. And I think that, no mat­ter what you may insist, your thought has become not only dan­ger­ously misog­y­nis­tic on a the­o­ret­i­cal level but poten­tially per­son­ally hurt­ful to thought­ful mod­ern women every­where.
    Surely, I don’t expect to change your mind, but it was sim­ply impor­tant to me for you to know that not every­one agrees with your assess­ment on gen­der rela­tions.  

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  • Sam Scott

    Karen and Sophia,

    You are sta­tis­ti­cal out­liers. Even though you two may not nec­es­sar­ily want to get mar­ried, the vast, vast major­ity of women do. That was my point — I was talk­ing about women in gen­eral terms.  

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  • Jen

    I am so sick of peo­ple telling me I am wrong or abnor­mal or self­ish because I AM NOT DYING TO HAVE A BABY and I am 30. I have no inter­est in stay­ing home and rais­ing kids and am grate­ful that I have a hus­band who wants to stay home. I am also offended that you seem to think women start to lose their looks when they hit 30, but that when men hit 30 they just become more mar­ketable. I know plenty of good look­ing 30 some­thing women, and plenty of 30 some­thing bald­ing, pudgy men with man boobs. This doesn’t even take into account men who like cougars, women who are cougars, or women who like to date older men.

    What fem­i­nism has given women is the OPTION to delay mar­riage and/or babies and to be more than just a wife and/or mother. I have the option to be in the work force and respected for my mind and abil­ity as a pro­fes­sional and not just my abil­i­ties to be a Step­ford wife with a uterus. Could the rea­son women are unhappy be more closely related to the rise in what we expect to have and not what we miss? Might we be unhappy that are still being judged for not hav­ing babies, or not get­ting mar­ried, or unhappy because we haven’t achieved all of our goals yet? The quote you start the arti­cle with doesn’t give enough infor­ma­tion. There are so many fac­tors that go into hap­pi­ness that the broad state­ment that men are hap­pier can’t be gen­er­al­ized too much of anything.

    I find it odd that you are judg­ing oth­ers for their choices (how­ever they end up), but expect peo­ple to accept your choices and beliefs. The choices you have made in the last few years to con­vert to Judaism and move to Israel away from fam­ily and friends were not typ­i­cal choices to be made, and when oth­ers did not instantly sup­port or under­stand your deci­sions you called them closed minded. Yet now I feel you are closed minded about some women’s inten­tional choice to not marry or have kids right away (as I have cho­sen with the lat­ter). You have also pre­vi­ously crit­i­cized women for not want­ing to date men who weren’t per­fect, but seem to now think it is nor­mal and accept­able for men to only want 20 some­thing per­fect spec­i­mens. I find it hyp­o­crit­i­cal that you would dare to judge oth­ers and yet reject their judg­ment of your­self.  

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  • Sam Scott

    Kate,

    What I think is mas­sively impor­tant to under­stand about the fem­i­nist move­ment is that its pri­mary goal was to make sure that women had oppor­tu­nies to expand their iden­ti­ties beyond the tra­di­tional bound­aries of bio­log­i­cal necessity.

    You are cor­rect. Women have had the oppor­tu­nity to work, obtain edu­ca­tions, and “expand their iden­ti­ties.” But I am dis­cussing the real­is­tic point that their are oppor­tu­nity costs involved when inten­tion­ally delay­ing mar­riage and child­birth. The older a women becomes, the harder it becomes. There is an upside and a down­side to the increased options that women have. All major, social changes in soci­eties have unin­tended con­se­quences along with the benefits.

    As a his­to­rian, how­ever, i tend to take the long view and as a fem­nist I per­son­ally resent your narrow-minded and short-sighted stereo­types as to how the tra­jec­tory of a lib­er­ated, marriage-resisting woman is sup­posed to play out by decade.

    I can only cite what I have read in count­less arti­cles and seen per­son­ally: Women who are alone and unhappy. Women who idol­ize the trashy, shal­low lifestyle of “Sex and the City.” Women who are car­ry­ing and car­ing for small dogs and fake babies because they missed their win­dows. I could go on, but I have many links to these arti­cles and stud­ies through­out my blog.

    As a nearly 30 year old woman who enjoys repro­duc­tive rights, sex­ual free­dom, and edu­ca­tional oppor­tu­nites, I have been able to shape my iden­tity in a way that is pleas­ing to me and not nec­es­sar­ily to oth­ers. Thus, I do not antic­i­pate spend­ing my thir­ties bitch­ing about how I am an incom­plete human being because of my mar­i­tal sta­tus or my desire for chil­dren. I also can­not think of any­thing that I will be far­ther from doing in my 40’s than rot­ting on my couch– by then my hard work will have led me on a path to fufill­ment and success.

    I guess what I want you to know from some­one who knows you is that the tra­di­tional pic­ture of mar­ried life with chil­dren that you present is not one that makes every­one happy-many peo­ple, of course, but not every­one. I do not like it when peo­ple assume what they know what my “nat­ural impulses” are, Sam. And I think that, no mat­ter what you may insist, your thought has become not only dan­ger­ously misog­y­nis­tic on a the­o­ret­i­cal level but poten­tially per­son­ally hurt­ful to thought­ful mod­ern women everywhere.

    I am not dis­cussing you indi­vid­u­ally or any women per­son­ally. I am dis­cussing women gen­er­ally and the fact that what I describe holds true for the vast major­ity, if not 95 per­cent, of them.

    Surely, I don’t expect to change your mind, but it was sim­ply impor­tant to me for you to know that not every­one agrees with your assess­ment on gen­der relations.

    Of course, you know that I always love a good debate!  

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  • Sam Scott

    Jen,

    I am so sick of peo­ple telling me I am wrong or abnor­mal or self­ish because I AM NOT DYING TO HAVE A BABY and I am 30.

    My point was to crit­i­cize women who inten­tion­ally delay seri­ous rela­tion­ships and mar­riage and merely “hook-up” and have lots of mean­ing­less sex. Obvi­ously, you chose to get mar­ried at rel­a­tively young age (for the West­ern world now), and I applaud that. Chil­dren is another matter.

    I am also offended that you seem to think women start to lose their looks when they hit 30, but that when men hit 30 they just become more marketable.

    I know plenty of good look­ing 30 some­thing women, and plenty of 30 some­thing bald­ing, pudgy men with man boobs. This doesn’t even take into account men who like cougars, women who are cougars, or women who like to date older men.

    The cougars and their prey are actu­ally fewer in num­ber than the media would have peo­ple believe.

    I have seen count­less girls, some as young as eigh­teen, flock to thirty-something guys. Men that age have estab­lished careers, a greater sense of world­li­ness and self-confidence, and more mate­r­ial resources. Much fewer twenty-something guys will date thirty-something women. Again, it is unfor­tu­nate — but I am just stat­ing the real­ity in the dat­ing market.

    What fem­i­nism has given women is the OPTION to delay mar­riage and/or babies and to be more than just a wife and/or mother.

    Of course it has. I am just not con­vinced that the newly-existent Option B is good, in gen­eral, for women indi­vid­u­ally and soci­ety as a whole. To write things like “just a wife and/or mother” is demean­ing to mothers.

    Being a mother is the most impor­tant job that a woman can have. In terms of what is good soci­ety, the world needs as many good moth­ers as pos­si­ble — not more female CEOs and mid­dle man­agers. It is hard to be both well since time is a zero-sum entity. There are only so many hours in a day.

    I find it odd that you are judg­ing oth­ers for their choices (how­ever they end up), but expect peo­ple to accept your choices and beliefs. The choices you have made in the last few years to con­vert to Judaism and move to Israel away from fam­ily and friends were not typ­i­cal choices to be made, and when oth­ers did not instantly sup­port or under­stand your deci­sions you called them closed minded.

    I do not recall any­one not sup­port­ing or under­stand­ing my deci­sions. Of course, peo­ple won­dered why I had decided to move here, but I do not remem­ber any­one rais­ing seri­ous issues. Espe­cially, I do not recall say­ing that any­one “close-minded.” I rec­og­nized the concerns.

    Yet now I feel you are closed minded about some women’s inten­tional choice to not marry or have kids right away (as I have cho­sen with the latter).

    My point is more that the alter­na­tive to mar­ry­ing is self-destructive: namely, the worlds that I have seen in which men and women do noth­ing but get drunk and hook-up with ran­dom peo­ple all the time. The longer that peo­ple inten­tion­ally live this lifestyle with­out get­ting seri­ous, the more dam­age they are doing to them­selves emo­tion­ally, spir­i­tu­ally, and per­haps even phys­i­cally through STDs.

    You have also pre­vi­ously crit­i­cized women for not want­ing to date men who weren’t per­fect, but seem to now think it is nor­mal and accept­able for men to only want 20 some­thing per­fect spec­i­mens. I find it hyp­o­crit­i­cal that you would dare to judge oth­ers and yet reject their judg­ment of yourself.

    I never said it was accept­able or nor­mal for thirty-something guys to date much-younger women. I am merely stat­ing my obser­va­tions of the dat­ing world. I think older men who always want to be play­boys and chase after young girls are equally mis­guided.  

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  • Sam Scott

    By the way, I would rec­om­mend read­ing my essay here:
    http://samueljscott.com/2007/10/05/the-battle-of-the-sexes/

    This is a full, detailed expla­na­tion of my rea­son­ing.  

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  • Cindi

    I enjoy read­ing your blog and with­out jump­ing into the fray, I see that this post has much merit. Nonethe­less, I find it offen­sive and reduc­tion­ist to say that a sin­gle woman has lost so much value by the time she hits 40 that all she can hope to do is, “Get a small dog or a fake baby, a tub of ice cream, and rent “Thelma & Louise.”

    I live in Las Vegas and I more than under­stand the empha­sis on good looks. How­ever, I would hope that mar­riage would be based on some­thing a lit­tle more mean­ing­ful than that. If the pre-feminist world you think we should return to reduces females’ value to noth­ing more than wilt­ing phys­i­cal beauty, then please take me off the sign-up sheet. Really, it’s hor­rific to think that, accord­ing to you, women have no value on this Earth after their phys­i­cal beauty fades. I would imag­ine that one rea­son fem­i­nisim was cre­ated to give women some­thing more than their looks to live for.  

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  • Sam Scott

    Cindi,

    How­ever, I would hope that mar­riage would be based on some­thing a lit­tle more mean­ing­ful than that.

    Mar­riage should indeed be based on some­thing more than looks. But, in the mod­ern, West­ern world, dat­ing comes before mar­riage. And, not­ing human nature, two peo­ple must be attracted to each other before dat­ing can progress or even begin. The prac­ti­cal real­ity is that as a woman’s looks fade, fewer men will find her attrac­tive. Most men, we must admit, have at least a degree of superficiality.

    If the pre-feminist world you think we should return to reduces females’ value to noth­ing more than wilt­ing phys­i­cal beauty, then please take me off the sign-up sheet.

    The pre-feminist world, at least hun­dreds of years, ago did think that. Today, how­ever, the pen­du­lum has swung to the other extreme. The politically-correct opin­ion is that there are no inher­ent dif­fer­ences between the gen­ders. This is absurd, par­tic­u­larly in regards to the dat­ing world. There needs to be a mid­dle ground.

    Really, it’s hor­rific to think that, accord­ing to you, women have no value on this Earth after their phys­i­cal beauty fades.

    I have said noth­ing of the sort. I am mak­ing obser­va­tions of the mod­ern, West­ern dat­ing world. As I have explained else­where, one of the unin­tended con­se­quences of fem­i­nism was to turn more men into imma­ture pigs who view women only as pieces of meat. This is horrible.

    In this post, I am address­ing only these mat­ters only in the spe­cific con­text of dat­ing, not in the world in gen­eral. In the dat­ing world, there are cer­tain real­i­ties that women ignore at their own peril.  

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  • Jimmy

    Thank you for the blog. Of course, what you say is true; only the truth would inspire such vit­riol. And as you cor­rectly note, much of this neo-feminist invec­tive stems not from out­rage at a sup­pos­edly chau­vin­is­tic world view but from women’s own sub­con­scious belief in the truth of your argu­ment. As for their refusal to acknowl­edge as much, that’s human nature. On the whole, peo­ple feel an incred­i­ble urge to rationalize–even justify–their past behav­ior even when that behav­ior has caused great per­sonal dis­sat­is­fac­tion. Take, for exam­ple, the par­ents of those who have been killed in the Iraq war. Nearly every­one now admits that Iraq had nei­ther WMDs nor any ties to Al Qaeda. In fact, a super­ma­jor­ity now regards the war as a mis­take. Thus, it would seem log­i­cal that the par­ents who made the great­est sac­ri­fices would be first in line to repu­di­ate the war and to hold the gov­ern­ment account­able. But sig­nif­i­cantly, although some par­ents are of that mind­set, many more are not. In real­ity, many par­ents have seen their pro-war posi­tions harden since their sons were killed. Why? Well, it’s a reflec­tion of pre­cisely this prin­ci­ple: peo­ple who have charted an unhappy course are often unable to acknowl­edge as much for the fusil­lade of neg­a­tive con­clu­sions that invari­ably fol­low. When you cast your lot in a cer­tain cause, there’s an extra­or­di­nary cost to admit­ting that it was a mis­take. Doing so requires some very dif­fi­cult con­clu­sions about you, your judg­ment, and most impor­tantly, what you have lost as a result of your choice to fol­low one course rather than another.

    Painful stuff.

    And so, with a sig­nif­i­cant amount of neo-feminist resent­ment at the under­whelm­ing spoils of their move­ment, many women are rel­e­gated to denial, to his­tor­i­cal revi­sion­ism, and to the notion that the path they have cho­sen has proved the right one. And in this respect, they are to be pitied, not attacked. Were men in the same posi­ton, they’d do no bet­ter.  

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  • melissa

    You are delu­sional and need to actu­ally sit and have a con­ver­sa­tion with a woman who doesn’t want chil­dren. I hate to break the news to you but its WAY DEEPER then some ‘Fem­i­nist Move­ment’ or ‘Some Career’ or ‘Some Advanced Degree’. Some of us sim­ply DO NOT have the bio­log­i­cal urge to be locked down with a full uterus. There is SO MUCH more to life the hav­ing a hus­band and kids to answer to. Dif­fer­ent things bring hap­pi­ness to dif­fer­ent peo­ple so maybe you should step back and reeval­u­ate how you por­tray women with­out a ball, a chain and a dia­per bag. To me there is NOTHING appeal­ing about get­ting mar­ried or hav­ing kids, in fact it seems pretty awful to me at times. And for the record I do not have some advanced degree and I am not so uber focused on my career that I am push­ing it aside. To some of us life is about travel, hob­bies, inter­ests and LIVING, no scum­ming to some ‘stan­dard’ soci­ety put in place many moons ago when peo­ple died at age 25. If you would care to take a poll and tell us how many peo­ple are actu­ally hap­pily mar­ried with kids your own find­ings will show you the valid point you are so des­per­ately miss­ing. Happy mar­riage with a white picket fence and 2.5 kids is a fairy tale, its Dis­ney Land it does not exist but soci­ety and big busi­ness try to make you think it does cuz all mar­riage is is BIG BUSINESS. And you also need to hang with some women in their 30s, truly good look­ing women SHINE in their 30s you can­not touch a hot women in her 30s. Men lose the abil­ity to have sex as they age, I hardly call that ‘some­thing to look for­ward to’.  

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  • Love

    Women like me in my 20s want to get mar­ried but the men seem to want to just sleep around. I’ m not that type of girl. So if I’m sin­gle in my 30’s I hon­estly doubt that is my fault.  

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  • Sam Scott

    Love,

    Women like me in my 20s want to get mar­ried but the men seem to want to just sleep around. I’ m not that type of girl. So if I’m sin­gle in my 30’s I hon­estly doubt that is my fault.

    I sym­pa­thize with your plight. It is indeed not your fault; it is the fault of the major­ity of women your age who have a lot of casual sex, thereby rais­ing male expec­ta­tions of easy sex and remov­ing any incen­tive to get mar­ried, or at least serious.

    If women decided en masse tomor­row that they would have sex only when in com­mit­ted rela­tion­ships (at the least), the dat­ing world would change rapidly — and for the better.

    Sadly, I doubt that will hap­pen.  

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  • Sam Scott

    melissa,

    You are delu­sional and need to actu­ally sit and have a con­ver­sa­tion with a woman who doesn’t want children.

    I do not mean this in an offen­sive way; I am just stat­ing a fact. You are a sta­tis­ti­cal out­lier. The vast major­ity of women, if not 98 per­cent of women, want to get mar­ried and have chil­dren. This is the audi­ence to whom I am writ­ing.  

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