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Intelligent Design

October 2nd, 2007 · No Comments · Christianity, Civil Liberties, Conservative Pundits, Culture, Education, Law, Politics, Religion

A quote from this web­site, which favors so-called “intel­li­gent design,” sums up my feel­ings nicely:

You don’t have to teach both sides of a debate if one side is a load of crap.

I don’t think that web­site is hav­ing its intended effect. Would you respect a geol­ogy teacher who insisted that the opin­ion that the earth is flat should be taught out of fair­ness to all sides? No. Would you respect an astron­omy teacher who said the opin­ion that the sun revolves around the earth should be taught out of fair­ness to all sides? No.

The same is true for evo­lu­tion. I’ll write a more thought­ful post at some point.

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  • David

    You don’t have to teach both sides of a debate if one side is a load of crap.”

    Not a bad quote. It suc­cinctly describes why so called “intel­li­gent design” is not taught in rep­utable sci­en­tific cur­ric­ula.  (Quote)

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  • charles fisenne

    Intel­li­gent design and evo­lu­tion started at the time of the Big Bang The entire uni­verse of atoms were born. Your atomic age is in the bil­lions of years as does all life and all things. Mankind, and sci­ence, should find this hum­bling in the con­scious­ness of their soul.
    Stri­dent ide­o­log­i­cal camps do a dis­ser­vice to human­ity. Schools should require a Search for Wis­dom
    cov­er­ing a broad range social prob­lems which will enchance and enno­ble our young.  (Quote)

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  • mynym

    Would you respect a geol­ogy teacher who insisted that the opin­ion that the earth is flat should be taught out of fair­ness to all sides? No.”

    You’re mak­ing argu­ments of asso­ci­a­tion because Dar­win­ism has not been ver­i­fied empir­i­cally. There­fore a critic can say: “Nei­ther of the two fun­da­men­tal axioms of Darwin’s macroevo­lu­tion­ary theory—the con­cept of the con­ti­nu­ity of nature… and the belief that all the adap­tive design of life has resulted from a blind ran­dom process—have been val­i­dated by one sin­gle empir­i­cal dis­cov­ery or sci­en­tific advance since 1859.” –Michael Denton

    Argu­ments of asso­ci­a­tion are typ­i­cal to pseudo-science because its prac­ti­tion­ers have a need to com­pare them­selves to harder forms of scientia/knowledge yet argu­ments of asso­ci­a­tion are sel­dom found among hard forms of sci­ence that are actu­ally rig­or­ous. Dar­win­ian rea­son­ing is based on hypo­thet­i­cal goo, so you’re left with argu­ments of asso­ci­a­tion in which you try to equate the imag­i­nary nar­ra­tives typ­i­cal to biol­o­gists with the fact that the earth is round. Biol­o­gists have often sought to asso­ciate Dar­win­ian rea­son­ing with New­ton­ian rea­son­ing yet physi­cists do not com­pare the the­ory of grav­ity to the the­ory of “evo­lu­tion” in the same way because New­ton­ian physics is not rooted in pseudo-science and is empir­i­cally ver­i­fi­able. if Dar­win­ism is “just like” physics or some other form of sci­ence that actu­ally com­ports with the empir­i­cal evi­dence instead of either mutat­ing to fit itself to it or form­ing the evi­dence to fit to itself, then what is the well estab­lished met­ric for nat­ural selec­tion? What is the equa­tion for Darwinism’s most basic and foun­da­tional tenet and how does it pre­dict the evo­lu­tion of organ­isms? What is the math­e­mat­i­cal lan­guage that rep­re­sents nat­ural selec­tion and makes pre­dic­tions that can be fal­si­fied or ver­i­fied, about as sure as grav­ity? Given the inces­sant attempt at an asso­ci­a­tion, aren’t Dar­win­ian prin­ci­ples as sure as grav­ity and as ver­i­fi­able as trac­ing the tra­jec­tory of an object before it is set in motion? Do Dar­win­ists think that physi­cists sit around after an object comes to rest and only then write an equa­tion or per­haps a lit­tle story about how Nature selected it to be there by sup­posed “nat­ural selec­tions”? Is Dar­win­ism on the same epis­temic level as the­o­ries that make pre­dic­tions and have been repeat­edly tested and encoded in the pre­cise lan­guage of math­e­mat­ics, or not?

    Would you respect an astron­omy teacher who said the opin­ion that the sun revolves around the earth should be taught out of fair­ness to all sides? No.”

    Why is it that you seem to have to shift to forms of knowl­edge that have vir­tu­ally noth­ing to do with Dar­win­ian the­ory and the “ori­gin of species” to argue how strong the empir­i­cal evi­dence sup­pos­edly is? It seems that you have to make that shift because Dar­win­ian the­ory is clearly empir­i­cally fal­si­fied in the case of mankind while numer­ous other organ­isms might also be advanced against it.

    For exam­ple, a case that Den­ton cites: “Sirex is also pecu­liarly accom­mo­dat­ing towards its preda­tor, the par­a­sitic wasp Ibalia. Sirex bores a hole in the trunk of a conifer, in which it deposits its egg. The egg yields a grub which feeds on the wood. As the grub feeds on the wood it grad­u­ally bores a tun­nel. After some years the grub turns into a pupa which finally yields the adult wasp, which, using its pow­er­ful jaws, bites its way out of the tree. The Ibalia using the hole bored by the Sirex lays its egg in the Sirex grub. The Ibalia grub grad­u­ally con­sumes the tis­sues of the Sirex grub but does not eat the vital organs until last, thus ensur­ing a fresh sup­ply of meat until its devel­op­ment, which takes three years, is com­plete. The pres­ence of the Ibalia changes the behav­iour of the Sirex. Nor­mally the Sirex larva bores deeply into the wood but when infected by the Ibalia it bores towards the sur­face. This is a vital behav­ioural change for Ibalia because it has com­par­a­tively weak jaws and would be unable to bore as far through the wood as Sirex to escape from the trunk. Yet another exam­ple of inter­spe­cific altru­ism? What con­ceiv­able value [for nat­ural selec­tion to oper­ate on] can the Sirex grub gain by chang­ing the direc­tion of its bor­ing? By what curi­ous sequence of small evo­lu­tion­ary steps did the Ibalias’ preda­tory habit induce this vital behav­ioural change?“
    (Evo­lu­tion: A The­ory in Cri­sis
    by Michael Den­ton :223)  (Quote)

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