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Jewish Singles, Army Women, and Israel Sex


February 4th, 2009 · Christianity, Dating and Relationships, Israel and the Middle East, Judaism, Law and Legal Affairs, World Affairs

jewish singlesTenth in an ongo­ing series

RISHON LEZION, Israel — So I was start­ing my first day at my first full-time job in Tel Aviv after mov­ing to Israel. I was an English-language mar­ket­ing writer for a high-tech com­pany. I was sit­ting in a room with two other employ­ees, and the depart­ment head came inside to wish every­one a good morn­ing. Soon I would have my first les­son in Jew­ish sin­gles in Israel.

After the usual pleas­antries, the 40-ish boss turned to my coworker, a 19-year-old stu­dent from Canada whose father is Israeli, and made a com­ment that shocked me: “Hey, your breasts look big­ger today.” I did not know what to expect: How would Israeli girls like her react? My col­league gen­uinely laughed. “Yeah, I’m wear­ing a dif­fer­ent bra today,” she said with a smile and a shrug. Then every­one started talk­ing about the day’s work as if noth­ing strange had hap­pened. If the boss had said some­thing like that in the United States, he would have faced law­suits and termination.

As a result of Jew­ish reli­gion and Jew­ish his­tory, Israel has var­i­ous cul­tural norms regard­ing sex that most do not see on Jewish-Israel tours and vaca­tions in Israel. This was my first intro­duc­tion to them. Later, the same boss asked me if I had spo­ken with “the MILF” in human resources. I laughed and shrugged it off.

Israeli Girls

Before I moved from Bean­town to Illi­nois and then to Israel, I worked briefly as a mar­ket­ing man­ager at a Mass­a­chu­setts hos­pi­tal. Dur­ing the day­long ori­en­ta­tion, a group of twenty new employ­ees had to meet with human resources, lis­ten to var­i­ous speak­ers, and watch a series of videos. (Obvi­ously, the job did not work out.)

I was sit­ting next to the only other guy in the room since all of the other new recruits were female nurses. Soon, the HR man­ager pre­sented a video on sex­ual harass­ment in the work­place: A woman ran to a female col­league to com­plain that the guy who refills the vend­ing machines had asked her out. “I felt so awk­ward!” she whined to her friend. “I feel so uncom­fort­able, and I don’t know what to do!”

The friend advised her to talk to her boss or make a com­plaint to human resources. At this point in the film, the other guy and I started laugh­ing to our­selves. It was com­pletely absurd — God for­bid that a guy tries to ask some­one out on a date! The woman could have sim­ply told him, “No, thank you.”

I think about that video when­ever I observe the dif­fer­ences between Amer­i­can and Israeli girls. In such a sit­u­a­tion like the one in the video, an Israeli girl would have turned him down, prob­a­bly very rudely. If he per­sisted, Israeli girls would have hit him or kicked him in the crotch. No one here would run and cry to management.

Israeli Army Women

Israeli girls are rough. They drink, smoke, and curse. They yell and argue. They are ruth­lessly blunt and usu­ally cyn­i­cal. They know how to fix cars and fire weapons. Part of the rea­son is that life is harder here, espe­cially dur­ing the first sev­eral decades since Israel was founded. Every­one pitches in equally. Every­one — men and women — serves in the mil­i­tary for a few years. Every­one works in the fields, sta­bles, and fac­to­ries on col­lec­tive farms named kib­butzim. I know sev­eral women who have turned down Israeli guys whom they deem to be “too sen­si­tive.” A bar­tender friend of mine, a woman, once gave me advice on meet­ing Israel women: “Don’t be so Amer­i­can!” (“Amer­i­can” is the code word that peo­ple use for “nice” when they talk to me.) Israeli girls will work hard all day, then make din­ner and clean house at night.

Israel is far ahead of the West­ern world in terms of the sexes being treated equally. But as I have always writ­ten, every­thing in the Mid­dle East is a para­dox. In other ways, Israel is far behind the West as well.

Part of the rea­son is that Israeli girls are very “macho” is that they need to defend them­selves against many Israeli guys. Men here, like many of their Arab cousins in other Mid­dle East­ern coun­tries, are not very nice to women in gen­eral. Men through­out the coun­try act like guys on a con­struc­tion site when­ever they see beau­ti­ful Israeli girls. Men have no shame when they are try­ing to get into a woman’s pants. Israeli guys think that I am a “friar” (the Hebrew word for “sucker”) when I refuse to try to pick up girls who are extremely drunk in bars. Israeli guys have no rules in the pur­suit of — well, you know. A later boss of mine at a dif­fer­ent job told me not to recruit any female can­di­dates for a posi­tion because “they get sick more often, and they get preg­nant.” Women need to be tough to suc­ceed in such a society.

Israeli, in many respects, is a con­ser­v­a­tive coun­try. Israeli girls are gen­er­ally expected to do the cook­ing and clean­ing. When­ever I am a guest for din­ner, I always offer to help with the dishes or the clean-up, but the woman of the house will threaten to hit me unless I go watch tele­vi­sion with the other guys. And she will only be half-joking.

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  • bluesmoke­of­par­adise

    I’m not really cer­tain why this is called “Sex and Fem­i­nism,” I guess I missed something?

    This is more about sex and reli­gion, and how that has played out cul­tur­ally in the states, and I agree that our rigid­ity is a con­se­quence, in this coun­try, of our Puri­tan­i­cal roots, as well as the blight of Fun­da­men­tal­ism, which exists in all religions.

    I think you raise an inter­est­ing ques­tion I’ve not con­sid­ered, the role of our Puri­tanism on Fem­i­nism in the U.S.

    I’m not sure if I’d agree entirely with your analy­sis on Jew­ish views of sex ver­sus ver­sus Chris­t­ian views … they sound rather good ver­sus evil in their own right.

    In part, because I’m unclear on how one dis­tin­guishes between mod­esty and prud­ish … seems to me a thin line that becomes a con­ve­nient way of cre­at­ing a “we’re bet­ter than that,” with­out really teth­ered to any­thing concrete.

  • Bill

    Im Amer­i­can Jew plan­ning to travel to Israel as soon as I get some $, I hope to lay ALOT OF PIPE while I am there!!!!

  • Rony

    as an israeli 21 years old male — i would like to say that this whole thing is so not even close to real­ity.
    it sounds like its all based on par­tic­u­lar sit­u­a­tions — wich sounded weird and absured to me too.
    most of the approuches to sex now­days in israel — come from west­ern soci­ety.
    the only 2 changes are:
    1. israeli girls are less “easy” due to the fact that israel is some­times like a small vil­lage — where it turns out that every­one know every­one and rumers go by very fast. so girls are a lit­tle more con­cerned about what will peo­ple say.
    2. religous has its dif­fer­ent affect for those who are religouse.

    all those non­cense (my spelling is probe­bly bad — for­give me) about bar­barien women is so so far from the truth.

    thanks for lis­ten­ing
    Rony

  • Sam Scott

    Rony, although Israel is a small coun­try, we may have just had dif­fer­ent expe­ri­ences here.

  • http://takkirauta.blogspot.com Iron­mistress

    This is exactly as in Finland.

    There is a Russ­ian joke: “Who is the bravest man in the world? Answer: a Finik (Finnish man). He can sleep aside a naked Finka (Finnish woman)”.

    The word “finka” can also mean a knife or bay­o­net in Russ­ian: “naked Finka” = can mean also a drawn knife or bare blade

    No, we really aren’t like that. But I might make a decent Israeli woman.

  • Edo

    As an Israeli/American (both par­ents israeli, born and raised in NY, but moved here 2 years ago) I can say that Roni has his point but so does the author. First off, to the Author. I dont know a sin­gle Israeli that can fix a car. The f’ing mechan­ics here dont even know how. And to Roni, that sex cul­ture that came from the west, is only in the movies in the west, and is real­ity here because stu­pid sabarim’ think this is real life in Amer­ica. Yes the girls here are FREAKS but they have class, they sleep around less, and the wiat until they are 18 and 19 and not 13 like in the US. In the US every­thing is ille­gal so the girls rebel and do some really sick things. here, they are so much more classy. (and so much bet­ter in bed). No israeli girls are not bar­bar­ians, but they are not as fake nice, and fake man­nered prosti-tots like the girls the author prob­a­bly met in Illi­nois. Roni, you just want to con­vince your­self that this coun­tries dat­ing life sucks, as most as you sabarim’ do. Go to the US, work in the dead sea booths, get laid a lot by a lot of slutty amer­i­cans who like your accent, but dont come back if you pick up STD’s.